Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/04/2002 03:20 PM House L&C

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HB 128-EMPLOYMENT OF MINORS IN AGRICULTURE                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 02-30, SIDE A                                                                                                              
Number 001                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 128, "An  Act relating to employment of certain                                                               
minors in  agriculture."   She noted  that last  year HB  128 was                                                               
assigned to a subcommittee chaired by Representative Rokeberg.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 036                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  moved  that  the  committee  adopt  the                                                               
proposed committee substitute  (CS) [version 22-LS0373\O, Kramer,                                                               
2/7/02],  which  was  recommended  by the  subcommittee,  as  the                                                               
working  document.   There  being  no  objection, Version  O  was                                                               
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG remarked  that the  primary issue  is in                                                               
regard to  the seven-day  [time period for  the employer  to file                                                               
the written parental consent].                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI  related her understanding  that the issue  is in                                                               
regard to  whether the seven days  is adequate, too much,  or too                                                               
little.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG agreed.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 079                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCOTT OGAN,  Alaska State  Legislature, testified                                                               
as the sponsor of  HB 128.  In regard to  the seven-day issue, he                                                               
related his belief that it's  a compromise.  He acknowledged that                                                               
in  some parts  of the  state  it may  be difficult  to meet  the                                                               
seven-day  requirement.   He  remarked, "I  think  this is  good,                                                               
commonsense legislation."   Furthermore, Representative Ogan said                                                               
he feels  this legislation will result  in a cost savings  to the                                                               
Department of  Labor & Workforce  Development (DLWD),  because it                                                               
won't have to deal with every case.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 104                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO highlighted that the  title of the bill has                                                               
been broadened quite a bit.   Originally, the bill addressed only                                                               
agriculture,   whereas   now   it   addresses   all   industries.                                                               
Representative Halcro inquired as  to whether Representative Ogan                                                               
is supportive of broadening the title to include all industries.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGAN  replied  yes.   Although  this  legislation                                                               
began  in an  attempt to  address agriculture,  he felt  it would                                                               
work well with all employers of minors.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 139                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA  NANCE   GAMEZ,  Deputy   Commissioner,  Office   of  the                                                               
Commissioner,  Department  of   Labor  &  Workforce  Development,                                                               
announced that the department is  comfortable with moving forward                                                               
with Version O.   There is a  draft fiscal note of  $22,500 for a                                                               
one-time  expense for  legal  services,  public notices,  hearing                                                               
space, and  revising and reprinting  posters and pamphlets.   The                                                               
fiscal  note  will be  transmitted  tomorrow.   She  related  her                                                               
belief that [Version O] is a good compromise.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI  asked whether the  seven-day period  is workable                                                               
for the department.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 166                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  MASTRIANO,  Director,  Division  of  Labor  Standards  &                                                               
Safety, Department  of Labor  & Workforce  Development, testified                                                               
via   teleconference,  saying   the   seven-day  requirement   is                                                               
reasonable and acceptable.  Although  the [department] would like                                                               
that  time to  be  shorter, everyone  is  compromising [with  the                                                               
seven days].  He pointed out  that if the legislation works as it                                                               
should, then [the division] will  have reviewed the jobs prior to                                                               
the minors' working.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI asked  whether [the  division] has  to have  the                                                               
original  copy and  thus the  "written consent"  could be  faxed.                                                               
She  also asked  whether [the  division] can  accept the  consent                                                               
form from the parent in writing.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MASTRIANO  replied yes.   He  explained that  the plan  is to                                                               
redesign  the  current  work  permit  and  use  it  for  parental                                                               
consent.   [The division] currently accepts  a parental signature                                                               
that is faxed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 194                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  recalled testimony  in hearings  last year                                                               
that the  turnaround time for  these approvals was  fairly quick.                                                               
He inquired as to how this worked last summer.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MASTRIANO answered that the  turnaround time was a bit longer                                                               
this summer  due to [the  division's] shortage of personnel.   He                                                               
explained  that usually  the  division  assigns one  investigator                                                               
daily to  review the work permits,  and one clerk.   However, the                                                               
[division]  was short  an investigator  and there  was difficulty                                                               
keeping a clerk in that position.   In some cases, the turnaround                                                               
time  was about  three days,  although every  effort was  made to                                                               
respond within 24 hours.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MASTRIANO, in  further  response  to Representative  Halcro,                                                               
said  there  have  been  instances in  which  the  applicant  was                                                               
denied.  For example, he recalled  a couple of instances in which                                                               
minors were  employed in establishments that  sold alcohol; those                                                               
minors weren't  old enough  to work  in those  establishments and                                                               
thus were  denied.   He also  recalled a denial  for a  child who                                                               
wasn't old enough to work in the construction area.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 247                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LARRY  DeVILBISS, Wolverine  Farm  & Farm  Bureau, testified  via                                                               
teleconference.   Mr. DeVilbiss thanked Representatives  Ogan and                                                               
Rokeberg  for  working this  out.    Last  week, he  noted,  this                                                               
[legislation]  was presented  to  the Alaska  Farm Bureau,  which                                                               
supports  the  bill  even  though  it  is  broader  than  it  was                                                               
originally.   Mr. DeVilbiss pointed  out that he'd  read [Version                                                               
O] to  allow the old option  to be used  if it works and  if some                                                               
elements  of this  [legislation] don't  work in  some industries.                                                               
Mr. DeVilbiss said it seems to be a win-win situation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  explained  that  the  bill  requires  a                                                               
preinspection,  but [the  division]  can  default to  [subsection                                                               
(a)],  which requires  sending in  the application  and obtaining                                                               
approval; the youth can work until  there is a response [from the                                                               
division].  He agreed that this is a win-win situation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEYER  moved  to  report CSHB  128  [version  22-                                                               
LS0373\O,  Kramer,  2/7/02]  out  of  committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations  and the  pending fiscal  note.   There being  no                                                               
objection, CSHB  128(L&C) was  moved out of  the House  Labor and                                                               
Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI  mentioned the  possibility  that  HB 128  would                                                               
receive  an additional  referral to  the House  Finance Committee                                                               
due to the pending fiscal note.                                                                                                 

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